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« on: February 24, 2010, 10:04:36 PM »

On another board I see it is very likely there will be a salmon season this year.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 11:00:30 PM »

The pre-season process, for setting a season, w/DFG and NMFS is going on now, I don't think it concluded.  Was the info you saw sourced or opinion?  With the only positive returns in the State coming up the Klamath system and everything south reporting another year of catastrophic collapse (my definition), I anticipate a 3rd year closure.  I think salmon will start to show gains this year and we'll see a more significant season in the 2nd and 3rd year after this.
Even though I've been fishing up here a few seasons, it just occured to me that the rockfish/lingcod season is only 18 weeks in my county.  Shorter if the season sees an early closure.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 09:07:31 PM »

The person whom posted the Information got it here is says Chinook is looking possible this yr returns are up from previous years. Here is link
http://www.pcouncil.org/salmon/stock-assessment-and-fishery-evaluation-safe-documents/preseason-reports/2010-preseason-report-i/
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 01:18:34 AM »

Lots of headlines proclaiming "good news for salmon" lately, all about better chinook returns and salmon estimates....up north.  My $ is on a third year of California closures identical to the last 2.  Realistically, what's the recreational impact compared to the commercial take of salmon each season?  Our burden is disproprtionate at every level.  As a group, the sport angler voice is weak.  Kayak anglers should be proud though since this small section is making quite a presence, nationwide, on a lot of fishery issues.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 10:51:26 PM »

SO far the Salmon season here is a go ck the morning of the 2nd before going. All of the salmon fishermen here in Port San Lus and Morro bay are getting ready in case they only get a couple days.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 01:39:40 PM »

Thanks Sea Weed.
I guess even a day is a "season".  All good though.

Scary too is what's going on over The Delta water right now.  Our fishery issues in this State are great and desparately need focused attention.  Not just from us sportsmen but from the most conspicuously absent group of our socio politcal community, the INDUSTRIES we buy all our stuff from! Noting that Malibu Kayaks is credited as the ONLY kayak manufacturer to lend substantial assistance to the angler MLPA cause is a disturbing fact.  Manufacturers outside the State profit more, with more to lose I think, than that one "local" player.  The cosequences of implementing MLPA isn't really just a California thing, it's another organized calclated move forward to erase sportfishing from the list of socially acceptable American traditions.

I heard a health care commercial mention "kayaking and fishing" as lifestyle goals and wonder that it won't be long before ad agencies drop the "fishing" part altogether.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 12:19:21 PM »

You called it right SW, we have a 27 day season starting April 3rd.  Hoping for a low swell and fish, we'll probably fish off Salmon Creek, Tomales and Bodega Head. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 01:56:57 AM »

yep here is a link it is official.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2010, 08:52:58 PM »

Went out in power boat from Moss Landing many Salmon were caught from 150 ft to 200 ft.  we had one to boat but lost it at the side. We had a drunk on board whom was of no help when we needed it. Swell and wind was up, no way a yak could have been out there. It would have been blown off. By the way Dennis I went to a Salmon Seminar on the declining conditions for the Salmon. There were a couple of congressmen there. But one thing of interest to you was I over heard a couple guys talking Shark Guard. I think they were divers I told them about you and one said they knew of you. Hope the other buys one from you.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 12:31:47 PM »

Thanks Jeff.  The swell up here has been about 15' and the wind is brutal.  With 24 days left, I'm hoping for some good weather and a few fish moving in close.
Thanks too for the Shark Shield plugs.  I'm repping Shark Shield nationally and given the economy, the slow start it's getting is understandable.  Bodega Bay Pro Dive has them on the shelves here locally.  The technology is amazing and the comfort zone adds a whole new dimension to the sport.
Good luck on those salmon!
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 12:51:05 AM »

Looks like we will be Salmon fishing through Labor-day. Starting May one 24 inch long and no fishing for Salmon Tuesday and Wednesday. I copied and here it is all of the West Coast. 

Pacific Fishery Management Council NEWS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Thursday, April 15, 2010
Contact: Ms. Jennifer Gilden, Communications Officer, 503‐820‐2280
Dr. Donald McIsaac, Executive Director, 503‐820‐2280
SALMON SEASONS OPENED COASTWIDE FOR FIRST TIME IN
THREE YEARS
PORTLAND, Or – The Pacific Fishery Management Council today adopted a set of
salmon seasons that provides both recreational and commercial opportunities
coastwide for the first time since 2007.
The recommendation will be forwarded to the National Marine Fisheries Service for
approval by May 1, 2010.
“While modest at best in historical terms, this season represents a substantial
improvement over the seasons in California and Oregon in the last two years. It will be
good to have fishermen back on the water,” said Council chairman Dave Ortmann.
North of Cape Falcon
Fisheries north of Cape Falcon (near Nehalem in northern Oregon) depend largely on
Columbia River stocks. Columbia River fall Chinook returns in 2009 were mostly above
average, although the North Lewis River wild return was slightly less than the
management objective of 5,700 adults. Forecasts for 2010 were generally above average,
including a record high for the Spring Creek Hatchery stock. Columbia River hatchery
coho returning to the river mouth were the highest since 2001. However, the 2010
forecast is substantially lower than in 2009.
North of Cape Falcon, there is an overall non‐Indian total allowable catch of 117,000
Chinook and 80,000 marked hatchery coho.
Recreational Fisheries
The recreational Chinook season north of Cape Falcon begins June 12 and ends June 30
or when 12,000 marked Chinook are caught. The Chinook season will be open seven
days per week, two fish per day, with a 24‐inch total length minimum size limit.
All salmon seasons are divided into four sub‐areas. Seasons begin July 1 (or July 4 in the
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Westport sub‐area) and end in mid‐ to late‐September. For details, please see the season
descriptions on the Council website at http://www.pcouncil.org/wpcontent/
uploads/PFMC_Adopted_Salmon_Regs.pdf.
Commercial Fisheries
Non‐Indian ocean commercial fisheries north of Cape Falcon include traditional
Chinook seasons in the May‐June timeframe and all‐salmon seasons in the July‐to‐
September timeframe. The Chinook quota of 56,000 is more than twice the 2009 quota.
The coho quota of 13,000 is about one‐third of the 2009 quota.
Tribal ocean fisheries north of Cape Falcon are similar to recent years, although coho
quotas are also much smaller than in 2009.
South of Cape Falcon
Fisheries south of Cape Falcon are supported by Sacramento River fall Chinook. In 2008
and 2009, poor Sacramento returns led to the largest fishery closure on record. In 2009,
adult spawning escapement for Sacramento River fall Chinook failed to meet the
escapement goal1 (122,000‐180,000 adults) for the third year in a row, leading to the
formal declaration of an overfishing concern (although fishing is not considered one of
the major causes of the stock’s decline). The forecast for the Sacramento Index of
ocean abundance in 2010 is 245,500 adults, which provides adequate numbers for
limited fisheries.
The Klamath River fall Chinook forecast for 2010 is sufficient to allow some fishing
opportunity. The Oregon Coast natural coho forecast in 2010 is about 70 percent of last
year’s forecast, but still above the 15 year average.
Recreational Fisheries
Recreational fisheries in Oregon will allow Chinook retention and run from Memorial
Day through Labor Day weekends. There will also be a concurrent mark‐selective coho
fishery from starting June 26 and ending either September 6 or when the quota of 26,000
is reached.
Recreational fisheries in California are for Chinook only and run from Memorial Day
through Labor Day weekends in the Eureka/Crescent City area, and from April 3 to
September 6 in areas further south; however, fishing will be closed on Tuesday and
Wednesday south of Point Arena. The minimum size limit will be 24 inches for Chinook
coastwide.
1 The escapement goal, or conservation objective, is the optimal number of adult fish returning to spawn
in order to maximize the production of the stock.
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Commercial Fisheries
Commercial fisheries from Cape Falcon to Humbug Mt., Oregon will be open from May
1 through August 25 with some three‐day‐a‐week closures in July. Fisheries in the
Humbug Mt. to California border area will be open in May, July and August, with the
July and August fisheries on quotas of 1,500 Chinook for each month.
Commercial fisheries in California are very limited, but will include two four‐day
openers in July south of Point Arena, and additional quota fisheries in the Fort Bragg
area during late July and August.
California and Oregon fisheries also include a catch‐and‐release genetic study during
closed periods.
Process
The Council developed the management measures after several weeks spent reviewing
three season options. The review process included input by federal and state fishery
scientists, fishing industry members, public testimony, and three public hearings in
coastal communities. The Council received additional scientific information and took
public testimony before taking final action. The decision will be forwarded to the
National Marine Fisheries Service for approval and implementation into federal
regulations.
In addition, the coastal states will decide on compatible freshwater fishery regulations
at their respective Commission hearings.
Council Role
The Pacific Fishery Management Council is one of eight regional fishery management
councils established by the Magnuson Fishery Conservation and Management Act of
1976 for the purpose of managing fisheries 3‐200 miles offshore of the United States of
America coastline. The Pacific Council recommends management measures for fisheries
off the coasts of California, Oregon, and Washington.
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On the Web
 Pacific Fishery Management Council: http://www.pcouncil.org
 Link to detailed management measures: http://www.pcouncil.org/wpcontent/
uploads/PFMC_Adopted_Salmon_Regs.pdf
 Geographical points used in salmon management: http://www.pcouncil.org/wpcontent/
uploads/geosalmon.pdf
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 01:45:05 PM »

...there is "a lot of discomfort among fishermen...apprehension is everywhere".

I'm really happy about the recreational season, the commercial season is virtually a token season.  Politically, the salmon/delta is one of the hottest issues in Northern California.  We fish Bodega Head tomorrow.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2010, 09:32:49 PM »

So how did the Salmon hunt go?
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2010, 11:28:55 PM »

I fished at Moss landing in power boat the fish were deeper than we were fishing. I hear now up there the fish are at 300 ft plus. Been spotty action off Morro bay, and port San Luis. Good news is we can fish Salmon to September 24 inch length and Tuesday and Wednesday the fish have the day off. Better than nothing. I hope to try catching my first Salmon off a yak in a few weeks when weather here is better.
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