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« on: November 11, 2009, 10:16:52 PM »

Hmmmm...where have we seen this before?

From a Press Release....

Los Angeles, CA - November 10, 2009 - The Partnership for Sustainable Oceans (PSO), which represents recreational fishing and boating interests in California, today denounced a decision that could have a devastating effect on California's economy and the public's right to access the state's coastal waters.

Under the California Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA), California's South Coast Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF), appointed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, today voted to send its own preferred alternative proposal to the state's Fish and Game Commission (FGC) that will close vast areas of the South Coast to public access, ignoring the impact this decision will have on the state's economy and budget. Particularly hard hit will be the Malibu, Orange County and San Diego County fishing communities. The recreational fishing and boating community supported Proposal 2, a proposal drafted in part by recreational and commercial fishermen and that provided significant additional conservation for California's ocean resources while minimizing the economic impact of lost fishing opportunity.

"By making this decision, the BRTF passed over the three proposals it earlier voted to send to the Fish and Game Commission that were created by 64 stakeholders who worked 14 months to create these three proposals under an ever changing set of guidelines," said Bob Fletcher, former president, Sportfishing Association of California, a regional stakeholder group member and PSO member. "Proposal 2 has a high conservation value that is relatively the same as other proposals but would have the least economic impact on Southern California, particularly San Diego where fishing and boating is an integral component of the local economy. The BRTF choose to ignore Proposal 2 in favor of its own version."


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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 10:17:42 PM »

Tim - what are you surprised? Good morning. Glad you finally woke up. Didn't you know they've already done exactly that here and up North! What did you expect? Does anyone really expect us here on the central coast to jump up and down about it when we could not get the most powerful sportfishing lobby in the state, the South, to come to one of our meetings when we were getting run over? (Not only that but they, led by Tom Raftican, financially supported the reserves!) But now that they get theirs and we are supposed to be upset for them? I'm must be a really self centered person because I just don't feel sorry for them. The rest of the state is already done.

For those who don't recall, several of us who post on this board spent nearly a year working with a very corrupt "state" process coming up with a plan for the Central Coast reserves that none of the interest groups liked (including us) - so it was probably a good compromise between everyone's goals. Then the BRTF threw it out and put in their "preffered option" that we never saw. Strangely, it was nearly the exact plan John Ugeritz showed Steve Moore and I over ten years ago in Port SLO when we laughed him out of the room. They've been working on this since before the Davis administration.

I talked to Deb Wilson Vandenberg (I think she's head of marine management now) last week who said there will be a review process coming up for revisions in a year or two. Don't hold your breath. DFG is still owned by the special interest group money.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 10:20:59 PM »

Be aware I believe the governments new way to control us is to divide and conquer. That is how we lost california coast. Now we must learn from this and when another place is facing similar issues not just fishing we need to stand up for what we believe. And support those facing those changes because we can be next.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 02:28:14 AM »

Sea Weed, Bob Hattoy hijacked the DFG meeting and drew his own boundrys. He rammed it thru, It had nothing to do with our approach.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 12:51:25 PM »

Weed,
I've come to refer to the MLPA and its implementation as a "manipulative" process.  Personally, I believe the whole thing is a well orchestrated, decade long, working of the process to get it where it is today.  In my view of MLPA, the passions and energies of our stakeholder reps (and every angler in the State) were hijacked by an all powerfull entity.  Given enough money and manpower in California, just about any aspiration can not only be legislated but the whole of social perception can be "promoted" to bring about broad change on the road to an ultimate goal...radical change.  Like "fishing is bad and preserving the oceans for "Public Preservists" is better social change."  The MLPA is not a State Initiative, it is State sponsored legislation.

This speaks oodles about the angler section, not known for our pro-active stances on issues that threaten our livings and pastimes.  How many anglers read Sport Fishing magazine, Western Outdoor News and Florida Fishing Weekly covering the few outdoor journalists left out there?  Through it all, the only industry representative to contact this effort on MLPA besides the Fred Hall Shows (and other lobbyists) is Bob Sands Tackle in Van Nuys.  Most people don't know about MLPA and it makes me think.
As scary as this is, I don't think we're done yet.  There is more at stake than 15% of the prime coastal access to fishing grounds that anglers, as conservators of the fishery, have worked hard to steer towards sustainability.  MLPA is just knocking out one stone (a big one) in the foundation of sportfishing as a traditional American pastime and a wholesome family activity.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 11:53:17 PM »

I think the powers to be want to shut us off to all food we can harvest our selves. Look at hunting it is almost non existent. Now that is has been so curtailed the powers are working on fishing. Sorry we are human and we are hunters and fishermen. If we let the government control all of the ways we can get food then what?? I'll tell yoiu health care so the goverment controls both and they will control everything you do we might as well all dress in gray  and eat soilant green!!
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 02:56:15 PM »

I don't think it's as much government malice as ineptness and the proactive attempt to use the system, to achieve the goal of making fishing and hunting unpopular, by special interest minorities.  The general campaign to sway public awareness will make their position a majority if it isn't addressed head on.
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